we are back with our fox news legal analyst lis wiehl and defense attorney and former prosecutor jona. thanks for speaking around. this judge sentenced this 17-year-old to 10 years mandatory church attendance as opposed to any sort of jail. what did you think of that? >> as a mom. as, you know, i'm very -- i think it's a creative judgment. i like the judgment. it will give the kid 10 years. both sides agree to it. give the kids 10 years church and maybe rehabilitate himself. i like the idea of it but let's talk about the -- >> what did you think at first blush. >> i like it, too. it's very creative. this kid doesn't deserve to be thrown in prison and throw away the key that's why the judge came to have. this the aclu doesn't like it. it's interesting to remind the viewers that the victim's family thought that this would be okay. it was run by them. they stay violates church and state. >> here is a judge coming in and saying you must go to church why love the idea but that is a violation of the first amendment. >> lis is probably right. the key here is the families all agreed. if the v